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we remain more than a collection of red states and blue states. we are and forever will be the united states of america. >> just getting a little update here. i'll tell you in a minute on florida, but welcome back to our special second hour of "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's see where we stand this hour and how the president pulled off a win lastnight. the president put together a decisive victory last night. falling short of the votes he won in 2008 against john mccain. but he had 303. romney 206. florida's are still on the table. the state does technically remain too close to call. miami-dade county is counting 20,000 absentee ballots they tell us. that's what they're counting right now. that's in miami-dade. that appears to be the largest chunk of vote. if that breaks away the way they're going, it's impossible.
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i guess nothing's impossible. it's improbable. it looks like president obama is going to get that one too. it'll be 323 electoral votes when all is said and done. but let's go and show you how the president did it, if you will. i want to go to ohio because ohio was a big deal at the time. what was interesting here is where the margins were. it was all margins. this wasn't -- this was reduplicating the map. here's what the county map looks like right now. i'll go to 2008. if anything, he did better in coal country as you can see. and you see the blue goes away over here. romney did what he had to do. he ran up margins here. the problem is right here. it was margins in cuyahoga plus underperforming with white working class men in the auto belt here. these two areas also swing. and those swing areas didn't go for mitt romney as well either. he kept it closer. he ran up the margins in his
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home turf, but he couldn't cut in the swing areas. one of the interesting things about the swing counties, i want to run through this here. hamilton county stayed with the president. jefferson county stayed with the president. washo county, stayed with the president. down here. hillsboro county in florida stayed with the president. brown county, one of the few large swing counties, mitt romney did pull off brown county, but wisconsin was a game of margins, if you will. speaking of other swing counties, in virginia louden county, prince william county. northern virginia, the suburbs get bigger outside of washington, d.c. a current problem, if you will, for the president -- for the republican party. after nearly a seven-year quest for the presidency, it was not the night mitt romney had hoped for.
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msnbc's chris jansing is outside headquarters in boston. it's eerie how quiet it is. there's nothing going on behind you. that's not the way they thought this was going to be the morning after the election. >> to say the least. and you mentioned mitt romney had spent almost seven years for president. it was over in about five minutes. a short of gracious concession speech. but that was preceded, chuck, by 90 of what were thought to be bizarre minutes where the media called for barack obama. and some for mitt romney said they would contest it there. at one point ryan got in his van and returned to the hotel. there was a question even when they said he was coming over here to make remarks whether it would be a concession speech. about an hour and a half after the networks called it, the mitt romney did call the president
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and then came into this ballroom for what i said was a very brief and very gracious final comment. so after one of the most -- the most expensive presidential race in history and one of the most acrimonious, mitt romney called for unity. >> the nation as you know is at a critical point. at a time like this we can't risk political posturing. our leaders have to reach across the aisle to do the people's work. and we as citizens have to rise to the occasion. and we look to governments at all levels to put the people before the politics. i believe in america. i believe in the people of america. >> well, the interesting thing was i got on the elevator this morning and i heard a very brief conversation, chuck, to that exact point that mitt romney was talking about. one said well at least we held the house. and the gentleman with him said we have to hang on to our convictions. so we know that the fight goes
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forward. and of course the postmortem as well. what happened here last night for republicans. they mentioned the 47% video. they debated whether mitt romney had moved too far to the center or whether he should have moved there at all. and hurricane sandy, a lot of people who i talked to as they were leaving this ballroom were suggesting that was the game changer for the president. having just been in ohio for five days and talking to a lot of folks there, obviously the auto bailout not only in ohio but in wisconsin and michigan keys here. but in the end, it was a night for mitt romney where he won only one of those hotly contented battleground states. >> chris, it was interesting to me the governor sent a message to his supporters that says accept this defeat. you know, this happened. and there has been a concern -- frankly i was concerned that whichever side lost might not feel as if they lost. they would be so stunned they
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wouldn't think it was fair and square. it does look like at least in that room and the supporters in boston that they know they lost fair and square. >> well, they do. and i think in the minutes after, we heard the statements from mitch mcconnell and this confusion for an hour and a half. the question was is this going to get nasty before it was truly over? i have to say one of the first things the governor said when he came out was to praise the president, the first lady, and the two girls. and there were polite applause here. and people were subdue. but i would not say in any way combative. i think they understood that this was a solid win for the president and now they have to move forward with what the voters said. >> chris jansing in boston for us. we will see you right back here 10:00 tomorrow morning. thank you, chris. now let's move over. barack obama wakes up this morning as a member of a very
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elite minority of american presidents who have won re-election and another four more years in office. my partner in crime over there at the white house christine welker joins me from obama's campaign headquarters. it's kind of empty behind you there too. what time do we expect the president to come back to washington, d.c., number one. and number two, what's the schedule? do we know fiscal cliff negotiations begin today. >> well, to your first question, president obama will be returning to the white house this afternoon. we expect him to get back at about 4:00. as for fiscal cliff, you're absolutely right. folks are going to start working on that today. in fact, i was talking to one white house official who said literally that is what is on her agenda today. so that is the level of importance that the fiscal cliff has. of course, last night's election sort of alluded to that.
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you heard president obama talk about the fact he is going to at least try to do a better job for bipartisanship. he has gotten a lot of criticism for that for not doing what he set out to do which was to do exactly that. to work with republicans. last night he essentially told americans he gets the message. he's going to do a better job. take a listen to what he had to say. >> you elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours. and in the coming weeks and months, i am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together. >> and, chuck, the other thing i found interesting about his speech last night, he didn't only talk about bipartisanship. he spoke of things he wanted to accomplish during his second term. one of those things immigration reform. he got a lot of criticism from the latino community for not
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bringing about immigration reform, not getting the dream act passed. you heard him mention that last night. latinos clearly played a big role in his re-election. i think we'll see him dedicate a fair amount of time to. i was in this room last night. it was electric when he spoke. >> it was. >> he delivered a storied speech. >> i will make a prediction now. i bet you immigration reform ends up getting 80 to 90 votes in the senate. republicans will run not walk in trying to support that now. kristen welker, we'll see you back in washington. we've got a packed second hour on this edition of "the daily rundown." up next we're digging into what went down in florida last night. that florida race still up in the air. they're still counting votes. i think we're close on florida. we'll be able to see the rockefeller rink. there will be no more red or blue soon. but first the president's daily
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schedule. should be back in washington by 4:00. then it's fiscal cliff business time. you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. ♪ bob...
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as of right now there are 19 incumbents in the house that have been shown the door. 30 representatives who ran for some form of re-election. i want to go through them with you. in california a big name here. pete stark. that guy's been in congress forever. he's not coming back. howard berman. he's not. joe baca, laura richardson.
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david rivera not getting back. and robert dold. he joind judy biggert, bobby schilling, joe a walsh. leonard boswell lost. in new hampshire republicans frank quinta and charlie bas. rounding out the list of ousted incumben incumbents, larry kissell. pennsylvania democrat mark critz and it looks like ben chandler may lose. he ran for the 25,000th time in a row against andy barr. they run against each other. ben chandler always wins. and this time maybe andy barr won. which may be bad news for mitch mcconnell. i'll explain in a minute.
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sarah, ben chandler without a job is a dangerous potential if you're mitch mcconnell running for re-election. >> it'll be interesting to see how the minority leader handles politics heading into his own election as you just eluded to. >> he's in a vice grip. he's got a potential primary challenge he was worried about. >> here the thing about mitch mcconnell. he is a smart political operative. he will put together a great team there. he's already reached out to rand paul. i think he'll be fine. we're already talking about 2014, by the way. >> i'm going to talk about 2016 in a minute. i don't know how much mitch mcconnell is able to be a good negotiator for republicans. did he earn the right to lead senate republicans next year? this has not been a good run for him.
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>> i'm not sure he gets all the blame for it. there's a little bit of blame to go around. you know, senator cornyn probably will get some of the blame. some of the blame goes to the individual candidates who said stupid things. i mean, you can't really hold him responsible for what mourdock said. >> chuck schumer goes in there and it happens. >> it's a difference between the parties. >> may be. >> and the most challenge inside to mcconnell is from the same people who brought you these disastrous candidates from his right. it doesn't seem there's an obvious path for him. >> i do think that the sort of tea party movement broadly defined will have to step back and reflect on some of these losses. if you think about what occurred -- >> you think jim demint is going to step back.
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>> if you look at the outside groups who really egged these guys on, there's a lot of soul searching going on. republicans would control the senate today but for bad primary outcomes. we may not agree with lugar but they would like to have him today. >> president could have won re-election and democrats would have potentially lost senate seats had it not been for as steve schmidt called it the lack a doodle congress. >> while it's true no doubt were a problem for republicans, no doubt for women it's not just one comment that mourdock said. this war on women, i'm telling you it is real. women felt it. they were angry. they were angry it went on and on and on. and so in some ways those were a culmination of the feelings
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women were having. you cannot attack our rights. one of the stories of this election is women vote. i'm on the board of pro choice america. we saw in battleground states for the first time to women access to abortion, a higher -- >> i want to talk about -- well, but let's go to for 20 years the democrats have been running away from the abortion issue trying to get closer to sort of -- and all of a sudden because the republican party had some candidates that went too far on one end -- >> don't forget the access to birth control kicked it off too. >> which was a totally false issue by the way. >> it was quite a real issue, sara. come on now. >> it wasn't. it's ridiculous to think any republican is trying to restrict access to birth control. >> really? >> here's the thing. i don't think -- i think democrats are way overreading
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this. this whole women's thing. this war on women. yes, you picked up some voters you were going to get anyway, but this was an election about the economy. and the economy's improve b. consumer confidence is up 30 points in the last year. unemployment is down. that's why the president was re-elected. >> i want to change the topic. i want to talk about leader of the republican party. who is it? >> i don't think we know who it is. in washington -- >> technically it's speaker boehner. >> in washington it's speaker boehner. but outside of washington, i think it's a jump ball. there are new governor who is will sort of be inspected and watched a little bit. but it's a crop of rising young stars. >> i was just going to say is marco rubio the de facto that every donor says where's marco rubio. >> rubio put out a statement last night that was interesting. it's like here's what we need the republican party to do. it wasn't the sort of thing
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speaking broadly to his party we need to reach out to minorities. and i think that's -- i mean, it was an unusual move i think for a relatively junior senator to put out this defining statement. >> karen, you assume that three of the four candidates for president and vice president in 2016 will not be white men. >> i think that's probably true. >> and i think whoever runs for president is ner going to say they're not going to fund planned parenthood or these other issues. >> but part of the reason you'll see minority candidates is because the republicans actually have a deep bench on this. bobby jindal, marco rubio, susana martinez. >> all right. well, we will table this discussion. just table it. we'll have more of it later. next, history was made last night involving marriage and marijuana. we're breaking down the ballot initiatives with pete williams. you're watching a special
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well, all eyes are focused of the race for white house and senate, voters also decided the fate of more than 175 ballot measures around the country. some of the most closely watched dealt with same-sex marriage, four states voting on whether to legalize or ban it. and history was made last night on that front. nbc news pete williams joins me live from washington. all right, pete. walk me through because there were sort of -- there were sort of negative versions of the same-sex marriage ballot initiative and more affirmative ones. walk me through the four states. >> you said history was made. it was made in two ways. first of all, two states became the first in america to legalize
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same-sex marriage by popular vote. where in the other states it's been done by the legislature or the courts. now a vote of the people. and the other thing is the marijuana thing. that also made history. let's look at same-sex marriage first. maine and maryland were the first states to approve same-sex marriage. now this brings to eight states the number where same-sex marriage is legal. so maine and maryland legalized same-sex marriage last night. there was a separate referendum in washington state. we don't know the results of that yet. there are still mail in ballots. and the other is minnesota. there was an amendment to ban same-sex marriage in the state constitution. that was defeated. but same-sex marriage is still illegal there as a matter of state law. now, on marijuana. two states now have more liberal marijuana laws than any country in the world. colorado and washington state have now legalized
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recreational -- >> shocking. so seattle and boulder. okay. sorry. >> they have legalized recreational use of marijuana. this means when this is all set up, you can go to a state licensed store and buy marijuana in the store, a small amount. an ounce and a half or something. and smoke it at home. in colorado you're able to have up to six plants. this was the amendment to legalize marijuana this is recreational marijuana. >> not medical, right. >> right. this is colorado and in washington state. now, there was a separate matter to approve recreational use of marijuana as well in oregon. in fact, it was the most liberal. there were no limits in this law. and i think it was simply too liberal for its own good. a couple of other states were voting on medical marijuana, joining the extensive lists of states that approve it.
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it passed in massachusetts. massachusetts approved medical marijuana. but arkansas said it wasn't ready for that yet. it was defeated in arkansas. >> two quick questions, pete. is this the last election that we will have same-sex referendum on the ballot? because the supreme court's going to finally speak on this issue. >> well, i don't know. i mean, i wouldn't b guarantee that. the supreme court is certainly going to rule this year on the federal law called the defense of marriage act. but we don't know whether the supreme court is also going to take up the prop 8 case in california and depending how they rule on it, it may be good for california only. it may apply nationwide. one other quick one, chuck. california defeated a proposition that would have done away with the death penalty. >> also the marijuana laws, aren't there federal laws that trump state laws here? how does this work? >> well, there are federal laws. whether they will trump them in practice, i frankly doubt.
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i think what's going to happen here is the federal government is going to turn a blind eye to the recreational use of marijuana in these states as long as people don't abuse the state law and have enormous amounts. as a practical matter, federal drug agents don't want to prosecute people for an ounce of marijuana. e spsspecially in a state wherey want it to happen. and it's telling that several former drug agents, several former people who ran dea asked the justice department to oppose these measures and it wouldn't. >> pete williams with all things ballot initiatives and the legalities of them all. thank you, sir. before we run to break, i got to show you this. the markets are way down this morning. europe was driving this, we were told. but a big drop. we haven't seen one like this in a couple of months. 242 points and counting.
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dow might dip below 13,000. we'll see. we will keep monitoring that for you. demographics were destiny last night. the president had the edge and republicans have a demographic dilemma. jewelian castro joins me next. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. 30 minutes to go before my nap. . it's the cleanest, clearest water. we find the best, sweetest crab for red lobster that we can find. [ male announcer ] hurry in to red lobster's crabfest! the only time of year you can savor 5 succulent crab entrees, all under 20 dollars. like a half-pound of tender snow crab paired with savory grilled shrimp, just 12.99. or our hearty crab and roasted garlic seafood bake. [ forsythe ] if i wouldn't put it on my table at home, i wouldn't bring it in. my name's jon forsythe, and i sea food differently.
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will, as you know played a key role in the president's victory. the share of whites fell by two points again. it's been a consistent trend. it went from 74% down to 72%. looking at florida there was a -- look at this. a four point drop in the share of white voters since 2008. there was a four point drop in the share of the white vote in ohio since four years ago.
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made up mostly in the share of african-american voters. the racial composition of the electorate in virginia was identical to what it was in 2008. interestingly enough, virginia and the national popular vote again is going to be, looks like right on the nose. the closest state to the national popular vote is going to be virginia. right now i want to bring in the keynote speaker at the democratic national convention julian castro. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> demographics are destiny. in the state of texas, is it a battleground state in four years? >> well, i hope that it will be. you know, texas made some good strides in this election. of course it's solidly red. in fact, we have 29 statewide offices and it's 29-0 republican to democrat right now. but i do think that in 2016 it's going to get closer. and certainly by 2020.
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they probably have a hint of that except when you look at who they've nominated, they've veered off very far to the right. so i think that what's going to happen for texas republicans is that they're losing the business community and the moderates. and over time in the next two, four, six years that's probably going to catch up with them. i'm not sure they have a sense of it yet. because they've had the rule of the roost since the mid-90s. >> what do you think president obama owes the hispanic community? to me he owes when you look at his re-election. i mean, it was over 70% he carried among hispanics. record number for a democrat carrying in the state of florida. i could go on and on. you've seen the math. you know the numbers as well. what does the president need to do for the hispanic community
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since they were there for him? >> well, there's no question that the hispanic community came out big for president obama. we're seeing numbers ranging from 71% to 75%. the biggest lopsided vote since 1996. but hispanics are like everybody else in the united states. they care about the economy, health care, education. but of course what it means is that we're hopeful that the president and the congress will take up the dream act and take up comprehensive immigration reform sooner rather than later. >> are you running for governor in 2014? >> i am not. i'm going to be here in san antonio. >> you're not. you've taken yourself out. >> i'm not. >> you're going to stay focused or running for re-election. your twin brother is now a member of congress. what -- it's not a very popular body. what advice do you have for him now that he's headed to
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washington, d.c.? >> the first thing i told him was that he could have it. but aside from that, he's looking forward to working with his colleagues there. every time we have one of these elections, it is a statement from the american people. and the statement that they made last night was that they want folks to work together. and so i'm hopeful that with regard to the republican house that they're going to be willing to compromise more. and that goes both ways. >> do you think that's the message? the message democrats should take away from their successes last night is a message of bipartisanship? >> well, not just democrats. the democrats and republicans and i believe the republican party has -- over the last couple years. when mitch mcconnell said his goal was to not get president obama re-elected. but the folks did re-elect him. they want compromise.
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we want both parties to do that. we'll get that tested soon. >> yes, we will. san antonio mayor julian castro. thanks for coming on this morning. >> thank you. up next, the always quotable mike murphy on his party's demographic dilemma. how do republicans need to recalibrate? he's one of those people who believes they do. but what should they do? you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. we'll be right back. ♪ [ female announcer ] e-trade was founded on the simple belief that bringing you better technology helps make you a better investor. with our revolutionary e-trade 360 dashboard you see exactly where your money is and what it's doing live. our e-trade pro platform offers powerful functionality that's still so usable you'll actually use it.
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of peace abroad and justice at home. >> good evening, my fellow americans. >> a telegram. i guess now it would be an e-mail. it's interesting it wasn't a phone call. daily flashback. this day in 1972 when president nixon won in a landslide. opted not to make a concession call because he figured the telegram would be easier. by the way, the late george mcgovern has this yoet. apparently he was asked when do you get over it and mcgovern said when do you get over losing the presidential race and the governor responded i'll let you know when i do. sorry about that, governor romney. but that is apparently how long it takes. last night marked the fifth time in six elections that republicans lost the popular vote for president. for president obama he won african-american voters 71% of latinos, mitt romney won white evangelicals with 78%.
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here's what senator dick durbin had to say about this breakdown. >> we're a diverse nation. we should be a nation where both political parties appeal to all of the people in this country. when the candidate for the republican party says i will veto the dream act, it is like a dagger to the heart of hispanic voters akros america. >> i want to bring in meet the press analyst mike murphy. good morning. >> good morning, chuck. >> i want to ask, who lost this presidential race? mitt romney or the republican party? >> well, both. i mean, they're kind of interconnected. i think mitt was a very good candidate. the problem is there's so many levels of failure in this thing. the biggest thing is demographic. i wrote for "time" three and a half years ago called the coming ice age for the republican party. i'm wearing my sweater today. it's getting colder and colder. the country's changing and the people our party appeals to is a
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static group. that's a recipe for extinction. the question is whether or not we're going to have an adult conversation inside the party about our need to attract more people than grumpy old white guys. and the policy problems with gay marriage and immigration reform. >> mike, you hear all the -- but you're going to like these quotes. susan collins says we have to recognize the demographic changes in this country. marco rubio, the conservative movement should have a particular appeal to immigrant minorities. need to work harder than ever before to communicate our beliefs to them. and yet your party still holds primaries, doesn't it? i mean, this is the issue. it's the primary process that creates the special interest race to the right. does it not? >> it does. both parties do. if the president had a primary this year, somebody would have
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gotten a third of the vote against him if they were famous enough. i've said for a long time the incentives in our primary are disconnected from winning a general election. not all our primary voters are as movement concerned ae the activists. our free market in the primary need to answer that. a lot of the leadership and kind of the heart and soul of the activist wing of the republican party is in total denial about this. the question is how many elections we have to lose. hopefully not more because time is running out. >> what do you tell speaker boehner to do when he's got clearly a sort of a built in majority right now thanks to redistricting and so many house republican incumbents won in comfortable areas. they have their cozy sweaters on. the ice age is happening in other parts.
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they don't have to worry about it because their maps got drawn. and that's just -- that's what created these problems the first time. todd akin's a house republican. >> well, there's a huge d-- now senate politics. we got clobbered in senate races. but senate and presidential politics have become completely divorced from congressional politics. people sit in safe districts with maybe two dozen exceptions and it doesn't matter what happens. so they're in these igloos on both sides and they're incentivized to tilt to the special interests that drive their primaries. one last thing. go ahead. >> who's the leader of the republican party this morning? >> you know, there's going to be a slug fest to find out. it's going to be a slow process. we've got tribal information in
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the party. and this knowledge of losing tomorrow is going to be a huge shock to people. they're going to think what america is this. everybody i know voted for romney. rasmussen said we were almost always ahead. we have to shatter that. and finally we've got to form the operative class of the republican party. we've had two presidential elections now that were strategic train wrecks. we've lost the ability to know how to appeal beyond our base mechanically. it's time for a shakeup. we used to be better than the democrats. they're now better than us. just like this israeli army, it's time for brutal honesty inside our party. >> you've just given us a nice conversation to kick off. mr. murphy i will talk to you down the road. hello, panel. sara, how about that brutal honesty about the operative class? well, you at least get to say hey i was on you''04. >> i was on '04.
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>> how right was he? i go back to the same question. who lost this election mitt romney or the republican party? >> he's right. they're interlinked. but, you know, mitt romney in many ways was a bridge candidate to a changing republican party. you look at the deep bench of chris christie, paul ryan, marco rubio, ted cruz, susana martinez. it feels really dark today, but there is a bright side for republicans. and we're going to have some great faces moving forward. >> the dark ages of the republicans in '64 meant they weren't going to win another presidential election until 1968. four years later. i mean these things do have a way of turning the democrats. >> and 2016 will be a changed election of course. i think we're going to have a little bit of a break until then, but what a fascinating race on both sides. democrats and republicans. but i think in terms of who won the election or not, better campaigns -- >> when is the better campaign
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lost in a presidential? right. i mean, nobody wants to fully admit it. i know. >> but bad winning in fairness you become the better candidate. >> bush won, i guess. >> when you lose it's always the finger pointing. but i would say tonight republican friends having been there in january of 2005, i've got a book of talking points i'll send you. same question. who's the leader of the party, what do you stand for. >>lets for sure. you saw mike taking a shot at stu stephens who ran romney's campaign. there'll be a lot of that feeling. >> i can't let this go because i'm focused on presidential already. why not? we've talked about the different -- we know the republicans. the first one to iowa. you say jindal will beat rubio to iowa. that he's first?
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is the democratic race all about just waiting for hillary? >> yes. absolutely. >> all you new yorkers think you're going to control this. >> here's how that waiting is going to work. people like cuomo and mally will say we're going to run no matter what. >> and then the runs. >> maybe. >> and if she runs they got to get out of the way. >> joe biden has been blatant about it. he called up the new new hampshire governor and is having fun with this. >> he's been saying all along -- >> and nobody's believed him. >> i don't think that democrats have to get out of the way. i mean, one perfect example is 2007. i mean, i do not think -- a, i'm not convinced she's going to run. i think she will not run. >> how about this? i think she thinks she's not running. but i'm not convinced. >> that's a good way to put it. >> she may think today. but i think it's going to take a bit of time to think about -- >> i think the day of clearing the field is over. people are going to run.
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>> for hillary in particular, particularly again -- >> first woman president. i don't know. i'm with you, karen. i think she might be the last one that could do it. >> how do you as a white male candidate make an argument to the electorate that -- the democratic electorate. i think that's tough. >> you know what? new yorkers and the state of iowa. >> cory booker has roots in iowa. >> hickenlooper, there's a bunch of hickenloopers buried in iowa. trivia. since 1900 how many democratic presidential nominees have won virginia in a general electitwi? the answer is four. here's the tricky one. william jennings bryan. he won virginia in 1900 and
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all right. time for shameless plugs. we're shamelessly ripping off "morning joe" so we can get out of thomas roberts' way. but i will start with shameless plugs with mr. zelner. >> figure out what happened county by county. ny county.com. best graphics out there. >> it is good. >> talking about the 2016 caucus caucuses. i've got to plug the home state iowa. still critical in this presidential process. >> now you're going to get the e-mail from michigan democrats and republicans who claim -- i'm not kidding. i just got an e-mail during the break. watch out. >> i've got to give a plug to my girl stephanie cutter. she was an amazing force in this
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